Recording 24 January 2025 on X with host Baron and co-host Quoteminer about the chronology of the Oera Linda book, starting with the flooding of Atland and the so-called 4.2ka BP event. Chapters that are read and discussed are 1.1 – 1.2 and 1.5 – 1.8. A long introduction is also held which forms the basis for understanding the Oera Linda book.
Approximate timestamps:
Intro 0 to 24.32
Chapters reading and discussion 1.1 at 24.32 1.2 at 49.20 to 1.21.26
and 1.5-1.9. At 1.21.16 to 2.12.28
Preface by Frank Pierce and discussion begins at 2.12.28
Quoteminer:
More than anything, it was the many correspondences between the descriptions of the sinking of Altland in the year 2193 BCE and the empirical research around the so-called global 4.2ka event, which initially convinced me of the authenticity of the Book.
The 4.2ka event is a name for a large global climatological anomaly that took place around 4200 years ago. That is around the year 2200 BCE, very close to the year 2193 BCE
This event first became known in the sciences in the 1980s more than 100 years after the publication of the Oera Linda Book in 1872. Correspondences between descriptions found in the book, and empirical findings related to the 4.2ka event, can therefore confirm the authenticity of the book, as no forger could have predicted new scientific findings century before they occurred.
It is further important to stress that none of the material referenced below was made with the intent of proving the authenticity of to the Oera Linda Book, and there is therefore no reason to suspect any foul play.
According to the Oera Linda Book an earthquake triggered the sinking of Altland late summer 2193 BCE.
The exact year is evident from Hiddo Ovira Lindas preface of 1256CE which states:
“Okke my Son,
These books must you guard with body and soul.
They encompass the history of all of us folk and of all of our forbears…
In order not to lose them, I transcribed them on foreign paper.
So, wherever thou inheritest them, must thou also copy them.
Thy children likewise so that they may never come away.
Written at Liuwert, the threethousand, fourhundred and nine and fortieth year after Atland sank.
That is, after the Christian reckoning, the twelvehundred six and fiftieth year.
Hiddo, surnamed Oera Linda
– Watch!”
From this we can calculate the year of the sinking of Altlant to 3449-1256 = 2193 BCE
In another chapter describing the time before the earthquake, it states
“The whole summer, was the sun veiled by the clouds as would she not see the Earth.
The wind rested in his bags through which smoke and steam, like columns, over house and pool stood.”
It is therefore reasonable to assume that the book states the sinking of Altland took place late summer 2193 BCE
Now, Joachim Seifert and Frank Lemke are two established climatologists, who have reviewed comprehensive data-sets going back 20.000 years. They took a particular interest in the 4.2Ka event and came upon a Sumerian tablet which they show contain information about a meteorite which they believe triggered the 4.2ka event. From an analysis of the pictographic content originally noted by Sumerian astrologers on Sumerian tablet K8538 they conclude:
“The meteor impact occurred at 10:56 am, on September 22, 2193 BC, after the meteor emerged at 5:34 am at dawn and after a flight time of 5 hours 22 minutes. These numbers can clearly be deduced out of observation data entries in the tablet’s pictographic records and in comparison to LOD (length-of-day tables) for the corresponding Mesopotamian latitude. The K8538 tablet is property of the British Museum.”
They are thereby astonishingly not only confirming the exact year given in the Oera Linda Book, but the season aswell.
Sources:
K 8538 Addendum joachim Seifert Frank Lehmke
Marie Agnes Courty was one of the earlier scientists to investigate the sediment layer associated to the 4.2ka event. In her 1997 paper “The Soil Record of an Exceptional Event at 4000 B.P. in the Middle East” we find the following characterisation:
“Further investigations have lead us to re-examine the nature, age, causes and effects of the third millennium catastrophe that we first identified as an abrupt climate change dated at 2200 BC, synchronous to a volcanic event, and inferred to have initiated the collapse of the Akkad Empire.
Comparison of natural soil sequences and third millennium BC archaeological deposits across northern Syria have allowed us to identify the regional trace of this exceptional event that Is represented by a thin dust layer showing great spatial variability due to differences of preservation conditions and non- uniform manifestations. Deposition of the dust layer occurred just after a disruption of surface soils, possibly caused by a shock wave well-documented in archaeological sites, with rapid propagation of a wild-fire, and was synchronous with the fall-out of black carbon originating from major forest fires in other regions. The event was immediately followed by exceptional heavy rain storms….
Its petrographic assemblage indicates ejection of rock fragments from various exogenous geological formations (marine limestone, basalts, gabbros, sandstones) and a great diversity of rounded, well-sorted spherules and vesicular glassy grains deriving from vaporised rocks. Re-interpretation of the previously-found thick tephra-rich deposit allows us to demonstrate that it represents a lateral variation of the dust layer and originated from long distance transport of volcano-sedimentary formations by unusual air turbulence. “
These findings all are echoed in the description of “How the Bad Times Came” in the Oera Linda Book
Here it says:
“The light was thus sad and dim, and in the hearts of the people was neither blitheness nor joy.
In the midst of this stillness, the earth started to shake as if she were dying.
Mountains split from each other to spew fire and flame, others sank down in her womb, and where she (Earth) first had fields, raised she mountains thereupon.
Aldland, called Atland by the seamen, sank below and the wild waves stepped so far over hill and dale, that all were overwhelmed.
Many people were buried in the earth and many who escaped the fire, were killed thereafter in the water.
Not only in the lands of Finda [the east], spewed the mountains fire, but also in Germany.
Forests burned after each other and when the wind came thence away, our land blew full of ash.”
And further in Festas poetic eulogy for Freya 2144 BC at the opening of Medasblik, it reads:
“When she had said it, the earth shook like Wralda’s sea.
Flyland’s bottom sank down under her feet. The air was black and newleaf ( yellow-green), washed by tears, and when they looked around for their mother, she was already upon her watchstar.”
So in these writings we find direct confirmation of all the things found in the sediment-layers connected to the global 4.2 k event.
Some might cope and say, “but the forger just added in the biblical flood from an old frisian almanac”. But the Bibel does not mention earthquakes, volcanic activity, large-scale forest fires, and dimming of the sun with black ash and “newleaf” (sulphuric)-green dust.
Sources:
Courty 1997
Harvey Weiss has probably contributed more than anybody to the study of the 4.2 ka event and the societal collapse that followed it.
In concluding remarks to chapter 3 in his 2017 book “Megadrought and Collapse” he writes:
“The causal weight of the global 4.2-3-9 ka BP megadrought in the regional abandonments, collapses, habitat tracking, and nomadization of West Asia is clear, placing the Akkadian imperial collapse within a regional and global frame of abrupt climate change that crossed both ecological zones and continents.”
Both in time and content this fits descriptions given in the Oera Linda Book concerning migrations from the east following the flood of 2193 BCE. It states:
“Three years was the Earth thus to suffer; but when she was better, one could see her wounds.
Many lands were sunken, others risen out of the sea and Germany was half bereft of forest.
Bands of Finda’s folk [people from the east] came who beset the empty places.
Our scattered (people) were destroyed or they became their thralls.
Then was watchfulness doubly demanded of us and unity our strongest burgh.”
And in the defense laws the migrations following 2193 BCE again remarked upon.
“In former times,[before 2193 BC] Finda’s folk were mostly hemmed together in their mother’s birth land … they were thus far off, therefore we needed no warfare, when they were driven out and came in to rob, then came of itself land defense, armies, kings, and warfare.¹”
Harvey Weiss included below graph showing the complete abandonment of a 1650 square kilometer area in the Leiland region (Findas land) around 2200 BCE.

Sources:
Weiss_2017_chapter_3_4_2_ka_bp_and_the_akkadian_collapse_in_weiss
Now is it not silly to think that a forger concocting a “prank” or could come up with all these correspondences from the comfort of his armchair in the 1850s?
“but they say it’s a hoax…”
Knowing the implications of the book, one thing I am certain off is, that precisely if it was true, they most certainly would claim it was a hoax.
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The first evidence of an abrupt climatic shift around 4.2 ka BP (2200 BCE) was noted as early as the 1920s and 1930s by archaeologists and historians studying the collapse of ancient civilizations. However, these early studies did not attribute the changes specifically to a global climatic event. Here are some key moments in the discovery process:
1. 1920s-1930s:
Early archaeologists, such as James Henry Breasted, linked the collapse of Egypt’s Old Kingdom (circa 2200 BCE) to an unexplained crisis, but they lacked climatic data.
Sir John Marshall, studying the Indus Valley Civilization, noted evidence of urban decline around the same period.
2. 1960s-1970s:
Paleoclimatic studies using pollen analysis and lake sediment data began revealing evidence of past droughts in the Middle East and North Africa.
Scholars such as Karl Butzer explored the role of environmental changes in the fall of ancient civilizations, particularly in Egypt.
3. 1980s-1990s:
The connection between climate change and ancient civilizations gained traction with more precise dating methods.
In 1993, Harvey Weiss and colleagues published studies linking the Akkadian Empire’s collapse (circa 2200 BCE) to a severe drought, based on archaeological and climatic data from Mesopotamia.
In 1998, Gerald H. Haug and his team provided conclusive sedimentary evidence of a major drought event around 4.2 ka BP.
So, while early scholars in the 1920s-30s noted abrupt societal collapses, it wasn’t until the 1990s that scientists definitively linked them to a global climatic shift using geophysical evidence.
The manuscript that later became known as the Oera Linda Book was first known outside the Over de Linden (Oera Linda) family in 1867 when Cornelis Over de Linden, a Dutch shipyard superintendent, showed it to Dr. Eelco Verwijs, a provincial archivist and librarian.
Verwijs was intrigued by the manuscript, written in an unusual script and claiming to be an ancient Frisian chronicle. He initially thought it could be a valuable historical document. However, due to its extraordinary claims about ancient Frisian civilization, it soon became controversial because it contradicted established historiography.